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Post by fantasygeek on Jan 4, 2012 9:29:56 GMT -5
Geek League...please vote now.
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Post by fantasygeek on Jan 4, 2012 10:08:27 GMT -5
Just to be clear, (Ex: Darvish) means example, not except.
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Post by zemtech on Jan 4, 2012 10:18:50 GMT -5
How about lets draft from the T-Ball leagues as well. I mean I have some kids that I think will be able to have high OBP against Major League pitchers! Its ridiculous to draft high school and college kids.
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Post by fantasygeek on Jan 4, 2012 10:23:03 GMT -5
Its ridiculous to draft high school and college kids. I think some guys would draft Ken Griffey Jr's sperm if it were allowed.
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Post by TribeFanInAZ on Jan 4, 2012 11:38:06 GMT -5
I just looked him up and "Trey" Griffey (aka Ken Griffey III) is apparently a 3-star football recruit right now as a senior in high school. Looks like he played in the Under Armour game. Not sure if Junior has any other kids. Maybe it is time to start drafting "Cuatro" Griffey?
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Post by wvtf on Jan 4, 2012 12:59:42 GMT -5
What 's the difference between international FA (unsigned) as Darvish & Cespedes and college prospects coming out this year? Why can't this be either players under contract or any players? IMO that's more black & white. The difference in one group of unsigned (IFA)vs.college players makes this a shade of gray. I like black & white.
Edit: I thought we went with the idea that taking these reaches causing empty roster spots (EX:College prospects) was the downside of it and therefore balancing it.
Anyway, so the bottom line is no HS or college players allowed?
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Post by fantasygeek on Jan 4, 2012 13:07:51 GMT -5
The difference to me is that the Int'l guys when signed will make their teams out of spring training. College guys may take years to make a major league roster.
The less vacant roster spots, the more competitve the league.
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Post by TribeFanInAZ on Jan 4, 2012 13:16:46 GMT -5
In general, its made relatively obvious on the Internet which International players are likely to be under contract by a major league team prior to Spring Training (even if not signed to a major league contract, you know they are likely to be signed by a team to a minor league deal).
On the flipside, it is known that a U.S. college / high school guy will not be under major league contract until the upcoming season is nearly finished.
That is how the distinction is made in my head at least. I don't plan on scouting Cuba or Japan to figure out who might be posted/available next Winter.
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Post by tigerswood on Jan 4, 2012 15:46:15 GMT -5
Conducting polls that change the rules a few days before a draft is objectionable, to say the least.
I won't vote on this out of principle.
I think the more reasonable thing to do would have been to conduct the poll with a view to instituting changes toward next year.
That said, I will abide to any decision taken.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by fantasygeek on Jan 4, 2012 16:01:27 GMT -5
If the poll results would have effected our keepers, I would've put off the changes until next year.
The poll results change nothing that we've done so far, but can effect the draft; which is why I conducted the poll before the draft began.
Now there is no grey area as to who is eligible to be drafted as there was last year when Rendon was drafted.
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Post by tigerswood on Jan 4, 2012 16:10:37 GMT -5
I respectfully disagree. The poll changes the rules which impact on my draft prep.
Plus, we had already conducted a similar poll in-season last year, toward this year's draft.
I find that any rule changes intended for a current year, esp. a few days before a draft, set a bad precedent.
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Post by fantasygeek on Jan 4, 2012 16:39:35 GMT -5
Preventing the league from drafting college & high school players changes your draft prep???
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Post by tigerswood on Jan 4, 2012 16:53:25 GMT -5
Preventing the league from drafting college & high school players changes your draft prep??? I have my methods, you have yours. ;D Point is, there should always be an expectation of constancy when it comes to rules. Any changes that are made should be considered toward another year, rather than intrude on what have been the rules of this league since its inception. If this is allowed, what might prevent you from starting a new poll about changing positional designations, counting stats, ratio stats, bench room, etc. Not a great precedent for a longstanding league. Anyway, do as you like. I'm just a lowly servant in a no-prize league.
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Post by fantasygeek on Jan 4, 2012 17:16:22 GMT -5
Point is, there should always be an expectation of constancy when it comes to rules. Any changes that are made should be considered toward another year, rather than intrude on what have been the rules of this league since its inception.
That's a false statement. The league was 5 years old last year & Rendon was the 1st high school or college player drafted in those 5 years. After he was drafted, I received complaints about it, but since it wasn't spelled out that you couldn't, I allowed it. It is now spelled out that you can't...in plenty of time to change any strategies.
If this is allowed, what might prevent you from starting a new poll about changing positional designations, counting stats, ratio stats, bench room, etc.
Nothing will stop me from ceating a new poll. The league members will vote on any new poll. I didn't make this rule up. I allowed the league to vote on it & it was nearly unanimous. The league spoke & the rule is now clear.
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Post by tigerswood on Jan 4, 2012 17:18:01 GMT -5
The rule is now clear that you can set up a new poll a few days before a draft and change the rules within a very short delay.
Yes, that much is clear.
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Post by fantasygeek on Jan 4, 2012 17:22:51 GMT -5
If the league members vote on it?
Yes...crystal clear.
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